[kit102]

看来我们俩回到了最原点阿:pig2:
新手想学斗数，最好的方法还是研究自己的命盘。不过我们俩个臭皮匠根本不知道如何定盘，也不知道自己手上的命盘对不对。看来也只能慢慢磨……不知道多找一个臭皮匠能不能胜过诸葛亮也~~:pig11:

感谢大大的提示~

[bohemianboy]

原帖由 玩斗宜子 於 2008-2-1 03:41 AM 發表。

首先

真太陽時

宜子不用

宜子通常以當地時間論斷再以三時前後驗盤才定盤

當然要多注意夏令時間~~這個很重要

還有多注意潤月

斗數也很重視定盤

盤定得不對

一切都枉然

那不就有三个盘？大大一开始时如何定的？

[玩斗宜子]

原帖由 kit102 於 2008-2-1 10:55 PM 發表。
看来我们俩回到了最原点阿:pig2:
新手想学斗数，最好的方法还是研究自己的命盘。不过我们俩个臭皮匠根本不知道如何定盘，也 …

首先

一定要加強對星曜賦性的認識與體會

再加上先天~~限運~~流年的四化

以定吉凶

譬如

看到一張命盤

一定先找出命宫的位置~~身宮的位置~~太歲宮的位置

然後

依星曜賦性的特質去問提命者的一些特點

譬如

命身宮屬機月同梁者~~屬南斗星，南斗主晚亦主柔，此命造一定外表看起給人的感覺較溫和~~這是外表給人的印象

如果於機月同梁有加煞星，就容易有煞氣在溫和的外表下，嫌得較陰謀~~

命身屬殺破狼者~~屬北斗星，北斗主行動主攻亦主剛，在命造者的行動舉止都較積極且主動

不加煞~~顯得較溫和但亦是行動派~~加煞~~攻擊性就蠻強了~~~

太歲宮較深層面屬命造內心思維

再依太歲宮星曜組合去判斷即可

這是命盤剛看的整個三大重點

一定要多加練習在本論壇的論命區加以觀摩

必定有些心得

祝大大

新年快樂
萬事吉祥

[玩斗宜子]

原帖由 bohemianboy 於 2008-2-1 11:27 PM 發表。

那不就有三个盘？大大一开始时如何定的？

現代人手邊都有電腦軟體的命盤

依問命者所提供的時辰

再多注意是否夏令亦或潤月以茲加減之後

就如同前樓所言那樣

加強對星曜賦性的認識

以及望聞問切與提命者互動目前限運情況

即可明白

那一張命盤才能定盤

定盤功力無他~~練習練習再練習~~耐心耐心求耐心

如此罷了

祝大大

新年愉快
新春旺旺

[bohemianboy]

谢谢宜子
大大真得很用心和不厌其烦地指导我们，真得很感动
农历新年到来，还要麻烦大大，真是不好意思
祝各大大
新年快乐，身体健康，再来发大财~
祝宜子大大，永远青春美丽~~~
哈哈
真得很感谢^^

[gonggong99]

Hi,

Just some sharing.

Before 1985, Malaysia was at GMT+7:00, now at GMT+8:00.

Geographically, East Malaysia is at GMT+8:00, West Malaysia is between GMT+7:00 to GMT+7:30.

Eg1. A baby born in Penang at 0800 hrs at 1988, is “actually born at 0700 at Penang”. Since we are using East M’sia time zone, we might need to adjust accordingly to Geographically correct zone.

Eg2. A baby born in Sabah at 0800 hrs at 1988, is “actually born at 0800 at Sabah”. This is correct as we are using East M’sia time zone.

Friend from M’sia.

[bohemianboy]

原帖由 gonggong99 於 2008-2-13 07:50 AM 發表。
Hi,

Just some sharing.

Before 1985, Malaysia was at GMT+7:00, now at GMT+8:00.

Geographically, East Malaysia is at GMT+8:00, West Malaysia is between GMT+7:00 to GMT+7:30.

Eg1. A …

那我岂不是晚上八点出生?那名盘不久撤撤底底的换了?
求救啊…

[kit102]

所以，还是请求大大们帮你定盘吧 :pig11:

我的猜测果然没错，东西马一定有做过时间调整，哈哈~ 谢谢gonggong99前辈提点。
我是1981年出生，不受此例影响，BB你自求多福了:pig8:

[jackchan_b2b]

1. 请看两段帖，是1982年用东马时间，非1985年。
2. 时差约30分钟。细节太复杂了，看下面吧！
3. 一个盘的最终决定因素是在于验盘功夫还是时间呢？看倌们、自己决定吧！
注3: 岀生时间(birth time, not day or date)是个參考以方便起盘论命时别差太远。

A. Time Zones in Malaysia Some years ago I created this page based on information from the file [color=#0000ff]asia, which is part of the tz database. After giving a lecture on the Chinese calendar at the Department of History at the National University of Singapore I got in touch with [email=lymok@starhub.net.sg]Mok Ly Yng[/email], who has researched this extensively, and corrected some errors in the tz database. I have created a page with the article he sent me. I have kept this page because it gives information about East Malaysia, too. I use the modern terms East and West Malaysia for convenience.
The local mean time in Kuala Lumpur is (6:46:48). West Malaysia used local mean time until 1880, when they changed to Singapore mean time (6:55:24). In 1905 they changed to 7:00, in 1933 to 7:20 and in 1941 to 7:30. During the Japanese occupation, Tokyo time was used, before changing back to 7:30 in 1945. In 1982, they finally changed to 8:00. This was done to create a single time zone for East and West Malaysia. Since the capital and 80% of the population is in West Malaysia, I’ve always found it strange that the whole country follows East Malaysia’s time, but I guess it was a gesture of goodwill towards East Malaysia.
# Malaysia# Zone NAME GMTOFF RULES FORMAT [UNTIL]Zone Asia/Kuala_Lumpur 6:46:48 – LMT 1880 6:55:24 – SMT 1905 Jun # Singapore Mean Time 7:00 – MALT 1933 # Malaya Time 7:20 – MALT 1941 Aug 31 7:30 – MALT 1942 Feb 15 9:00 – JST 1945 Sep 2 7:30 – MALT 1982 May 8:00 – MYT # Malaysia TimeThe local mean time in Kuching is (7:21:20). Sabah and Sarawak used local mean time until 1926. They then changed to 7:30. In 1933, when West Malaysia changed to 7:20, they changed to 8:00, with a 20min time change between September 14 and December 14. During the Japanese occupation, Tokyo time was used, before changing back to 8:00, but without the daylight savings time, in 1945. The tz database does not distinguish between Sabah and Sarawak, so I assume that these changes applied to both places.
Zone Asia/Kuching 7:21:20 – LMT 1926 Mar 7:30 – BORT 1933 # Borneo Time 8:00 NBorneo BOR%sT 1942 9:00 – JST 1945 Sep 2 8:00 – BORT 1982 May 8:00 – MYT# Rule NAME FROM TO TYPE IN ON AT SAVE LETTER/SRule NBorneo 1935 1941 – Sep 14 0:00 0:20 TSRule NBorneo 1935 1941 – Dec 14 0:00 0 -The daylight savings time from September 14 to December 14 is very interesting. On November 3, the equation of time reaches a maximum of 16m 25s. This seems to be an attempt at reducing the variation in the time of the sunrise by looking at how the analemma rises in the tropics.

B. Malaysian Standard TimeFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaJump to: navigation, search
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[/td][td]This article or section includes a list of references or external links, but its sources remain unclear because it lacks in-text citations.
[size=2]You can improve this article by introducing more precise citations.[/td][/tr][/table]Malaysian Standard Time (MST; Malay: Waktu Piawai Malaysia) is a standard time used in Malaysia. It is 8 hours ahead of Greenwich Mean Time and Coordinated Universal Time. The local mean time in Kuala Lumpur was originally +6:46:48 GMT. Peninsular Malaysia used this local mean time until 1880, when they changed to Singapore mean time +6:55:24 GMT. Between the end of the Second World War and the formation of Malaysia in 1963, it was known as British Malayan Standard Time, which was 7.5 hours ahead of Greenwich Mean Time. At 23:30 hrs local time of December 31, 1981, people in Peninsular Malaysia adjusted their clocks and watches ahead by 30 minutes to match the time in use in East Malaysia, which was 00:00 hrs of January 1, 1982.
[table][tr][td]Contents[hide]
[list]1 Time changing chronicles (Peninsular Malaysia) 2 Time in East Malaysia 3 History 4 Standardisation of time in Malaysia 5 Official site 6 Monitor [*]7 References[/list][/td][/tr][/table][edit] Time changing chronicles (Peninsular Malaysia)[table][tr][td]Period in use[/td][td]Time offset from GMT[/td][td]Name of Time (unofficial)[/td][/tr][tr][td]Until May 31, 1905[/td][td]+ 6hr 46m 48s[/td][td]British Malayan Mean Time[/td][/tr][tr][td]June 1, 1905 – December 31, 1932[/td][td]+ 7hr 00m 00s[/td][td]Standard Zone Time[/td][/tr][tr][td]January 1, 1933 – August 31, 1941[/td][td]+ 7hr 20m 00s[/td][td]Daylight Saving Time[/td][/tr][tr][td]September 1, 1941 – February 15, 1942[/td][td]+ 7hr 30m 00s[/td][td]Daylight Saving Time[/td][/tr][tr][td]February 16, 1942 – September 12, 1945[/td][td]+ 9hr 00m 00s[/td][td]Tokyo Standard Time[/td][/tr][tr][td]September 13, 1945 – December 31, 1981[/td][td]+ 7hr 30m 00s[/td][td]Daylight Saving Time/Malaysian Standard Time[/td][/tr][tr][td]January 1, 1982 – Present[/td][td]+ 8hr 00m 00s[/td][td]Malaysian Standard Time[/td][/tr][/table][edit] Time in East MalaysiaThe local mean time in Kuching is +7:21:20 GMT. Sabah and Sarawak used local mean time until 1926. They then changed to +7:30 GMT. In 1933, when West Malaysia changed to +7:20 GMT, they changed to +8:00 GMT, with a 20-minute time change between September 14 and December 14. During the Japanese occupation, Tokyo time (+9:00 GMT) was used, before changing back to +8:00 GMT, but without the daylight saving time, in 1945.
Zone Asia/Kuching 7:21:20 – LMT 1926 Mar 7:30 – BORT 1933 # Borneo Time 8:00 NBorneo BOR%sT 1942 9:00 – JST 1945 Sep 2 8:00 – BORT 1982 May 8:00 – MYT # Rule NAME FROM TO ON AT SAVE LETTER/S Rule NBorneo 1935 1941 Sep 14 0:00 0:20 TS Rule NBorneo 1935 1941 Dec 14 0:00 0 -The daylight saving time from September 14 to December 14 is very interesting. On November 3, the equation of time reaches a maximum of 16m 25s. This seems to be an attempt at reducing the variation in the time of the sunrise by looking at how the analemma rises in the tropics.
[edit] History[list][*]Prior to 1 January 1901 – locations in British Malaya with an Astronomical Observatory would adopt the local mean time based on the Observatory’s geographical position. Penang, Malacca and Singapore all had their own observatories; hence, the three Straits Settlements had their respective Local Mean Time, with minutes of differences amongst the three locations.[*]1920 – In 1920, a bill was introduced in the Straits Settlements’ Legislative Council to adopt “Daylight Saving Time” just like in England. The proposed time was 30 min forward of the mean time of the 105th meridian, i.e. 0730 hours ahead of GMT. The reason for proposing this was to allow more leisure time for the labourers after work. This bill was dropped after the first reading.[*]1901 – On 1 January 1901, Singapore’s Local Mean Time (Singapore Mean Time) was adopted by the Straits Settlements and the Federated Malay States as the Standard Time. This was introduced because railway, postal and telegraphic services were becoming more common and a single standard time will ease scheduling problems. Singapore was chosen because it was the administrative HQ for the SS and the FMS then.[*]1905 – On 1 June 1905, the mean time of the 105th Meridian (Longitude 105 degrees East) was adopted by the Straits Settlements and the Federated Malay States as the new Standard Time. This decision was made way back in February, 1904. The mean time of the 105th meridian is 7 hours ahead of Greenwich Mean Time (i.e. the Local Mean Time over Greenwich Royal Observatory near London, England). This Standard Time went into effect when the Time Ball on Fort Canning was completed and became operational on the same day.[*]1932 – 12 years after the 1920 introduction of the “Daylight Saving Bill”, the same bill was reintroduced to the Legislative Council. One of the original reasons for dropping the 1920 Bill was the argument that 30 minutes was too much change. Therefore, in 1932, the proposed shift was reduced by 10 minutes, down to 20 minutes ahead of the mean time of the 105th meridian. This was a compromise, which was perceived to be more acceptable to the overly cautious Legislative Council members. After 2 debating sessions, this Bill was passed and became Ordinance No. 21 of 1932. The short title was Daylight Saving Ordinance, 1932. This was to come into force on the first day of January, 1933, and was to be in force during the year 1933.[*]1933 – 1 January 1933, the Daylight Saving Ordinance came into effect on New Year’s Day. This Ordinance as passed was in effect for the year 1933 only. Daylight Saving Time was 20 minutes faster than Standard Time, i.e. 0720 hours minutes ahead of GMT.[*]1934-1935 – For the years 1934 and 1935, the Daylight Saving Ordinance, 1932 was extended throughout both years by Gazette Notifications.[*]1935 – In 1935, the Daylight Saving Ordinance, 1932 was amended by Ordinance No. 5 of 1935–The Daylight Saving (Amendment) Ordinance, 1935. The year limit ‘1933’ was removed, turning the ordinance into permanent effect without the need for the Governor to declare any extensions. The time of 0720 hours ahead of GMT became permanent “Standard Time” with this amendment. The Survey Department’s 1935 Annual Report advised readers to adjust their clocks appropriately by 20 minutes for the year 1936.[*]1936 – The Daylight Saving Ordinance became Chapter 170 in the 1936 Edition of The Laws of the Straits Settlements.[*]1941 – In 1941, the Daylight Saving Ordinance was amended yet again by Ordinance 33 of 1941. Daylight Saving Time would henceforth be 30 min ahead of the mean time of the 105th meridian (10 min more than the original DST), i.e. 0730 hours ahead of GMT. This came into effect on 1 September 1941. Interesting to note that this was the original DST proposed in 1920 and was met with much opposition then.[*]1942 – 16 February 1942, Japanese formally occupied British Malaya. British Malayan time moved ahead by 1 hour 30 minutes to conform with Tokyo Standard Time, which is 0900 hours ahead of GMT.[*]1945 – 12 September 1945, Japanese formally surrendered in Singapore. British Malayan time reverted to “pre-invasion” standard: 0730 hours ahead of GMT. The exact dates for the change to and from Tokyo Standard Time have not been ascertained yet. The dates given here are based on educated speculation.[/list][edit] Standardisation of time in MalaysiaMalaysia declared that people in West Malaysia would move their clocks ahead by 30 min to match the time in use in East Malaysia (8 hrs ahead of GMT) in 1981. However many find this to be awkward as most of Malaysians (roughly 80%) live in West Malaysia rather than in East Malaysia. Malaysia is currently in effect running on the equivalent of the usual ‘Spring Forward, Autumn Back’ type of Daylight Saving Time found in North America and Europe. Such ‘normal’ DST is usually Standard Zone Time + 1 hour. Malaysia’s mathematical Standard Zone Time is +7:00 GMT, hence the current +8:00 GMT is = 7 + 1 which is equivalent to the DST during the summer months in the temperate countries.

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[gonggong99]

原帖由 jackchan_b2b 於 2008-2-16 12:05 AM 發表。
注3: 岀生时间(birth time, not day or date)是个參考以方便起盘论命时别差太远

Thank you for correcting the effective year.

A full understanding of M’sia’s Time zone.

[gonggong99]

原帖由 kit102 於 2008-2-15 10:46 PM 發表。
我是1981年出生，不受此例影响

Eg, A baby born in Penang on 1981 at 1930 hrs is actually “born in Penang at 1900 hrs”.

Since the M’sia time was GMT +7:30, but geographically at GMT +7:00.

More importantly, from jackchan_b2b 大大,

岀生时间(birth time, not day or date)是个參考以方便起盘论命时别差太远。

[jackchan_b2b]

原帖由 gonggong99 於 2008-2-16 04:35 AM 發表。

Eg, A baby born in Penang on 1981 at 1930 hrs is actually “born in Penang at 1900 hrs”.

Since the M’sia time was GMT +7:30, but geographically at GMT +7:00.

More importantl …

请參考宜子小姐九十一及九十五楼。
Please refer to the level 91 and 95 of 宜子小姐。

[bohemianboy]

原帖由 jackchan_b2b 於 2008-2-16 09:30 AM 發表。

请參考宜子小姐九十一及九十五楼。
Please refer to the level 91 and 95 of 宜子小姐。

老大
到论命区帮我一下
感激不尽

[jackchan_b2b]

原帖由 bohemianboy 於 2008-2-21 11:41 AM 發表。

老大
到论命区帮我一下
感激不尽

不要叫我老大，“我不做老大好多年。。。。”（岀自台语歌，忘了歌名及歌手）:pig2: :pig5:
有缘及精力一定献丑。
马来西亜大选将近，比較忙。。。。
忙於开導小孩什么是糖果、什么是华小，又听聞。。。。
头痛。。。。
我要去找条河把未吃完的橘子投入许愿。。。。:pig7: :pig8: :pig6: :pig5:

[bohemianboy]

原帖由 jackchan_b2b 於 2008-2-21 06:55 PM 發表。

不要叫我老大，“我不做老大好多年。。。。”（岀自台语歌，忘了歌名及歌手）:pig2: :pig5:
有缘及精力一定献丑。
马来西亜大选将近，比較忙。。 …

火箭升空，顺利进入月亮轨道
大大，斗数能预测吗？